<rumflump> K2: fruit of wishing.
<rumflump> bless it? does it actually give a wish?
<K2> no idea
<K2> what variant?
<rumflump> spork
<K2> never ran into it
<FIQ> rumflump: are you using my rcfile?
<rumflump> yes
<rumflump> did you name fruits that
<rumflump> you evil bastard
<KnightLite> dammit, the dreaded purple h of the gnomish mines... thankfully that ESP amulet means I can avoid it for a bit, but.... dang.
<KnightLite> I really wish mindflayers would be reassigned to a different letter
<elenmirie__> well, if they were it would stop a lot of innocent hobbits and dwarves being genocided all the time
<Rodney> klindahl (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 925 points, T:1751, killed by a dwarf
<argiopeweb> I had a strange tingling run up my arm earlier while dipping something. What was that?
<antivert> ** you're now pregnant with the lady of the lake's child
<antivert> D:
<argiopeweb> Pregnant with a ladies' child?
<antivert> argiopeweb: yeah, good luck with that in nine months
<rain> "A small sword named Excalibur Jr. rips through your abdomen! You die. --More--"
<billnye> hahaha rain
<argiopeweb> lol
<billnye> "dywypi(nherited)? (Y/n/q)"
* rain chuckles.
<rain> Very nice.
<bcode> "Randomized dungeon graph. Start in the dragon caves, do the quest in
Vlad's Tower, fight Vlad in Moria, kill the Wizard of Yendor in the
Mines and get the Amulet from the Planes! Then, go through Sokoban and
ascend at the correct high prize of Sokoban"
<Furey> The Dungeons of Doom: levels 1 to 25
<Furey> Level 2:
<Furey> An armor shop.
<Furey> Oracle of Delphi.
<Furey> Level 3:
<Furey> A scroll shop.
<Furey> Oracle of Delphi.
<Furey> Stairs down to The Gnomish Mines.
<Furey> Level 4:
<Furey> Oracle of Delphi.
<Furey> Level 5:
<Furey> A shop.
<Furey> Oracle of Delphi.
<Furey> Level 6: <- You are here.
<Furey> Oracle of Delphi.
<Andrio> What the heck have you done to the poor Oracle?
< Graylight> help...?
< Graylight> the... amulet...
< Graylight> The high priest was dead.
< Graylight> No amulet among his remains.
< Cheapy_> maybe it was a cheap imitation High Priest
<+Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh362] janekw (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 627 points, T:1469, killed by a kitten called Coco, while unconscious from rotten food
<raisse> ooh elenmirie__'s kitten killed janekw
<@K2> ooooh snap
<hothraxxa> some people should keep better control over their pets, i say
<@K2> doesn't Yendor have some sort of leash law?
<Rodney> jaguar4096 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2402 points, killed by a jaguar
<Violist> how ironic
<Violist> jaguar, killed by a jaguar
<Kats> I had a char named Rat killed by a giant rat and a char named Bugsex killed by a killer bee...I make sure my chars are NOT named after monsters now
<Kats> even indirectly
<TSC> Why don't you name one "Ascension"?
<Kats> !! good idea!
<Rodney> Ascension (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, killed by a grid bug
<LarienTelrunya> Winsalot: do you want to play ♥S♥L♥E♥X♥ while waiting for your crashed game to become playable again? :D
<+rld> <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya == Amy?
<LarienTelrunya> oh I thought everyone knew that :D yes, I'm Amy
<+rld> <@Winsalot> TIL. I somehow thought that slex has 2 devs- LarienTelrunya and Amy 😃
<LarienTelrunya> Winsalot: LOL :D But you're kind of right: slex has 2 devs, Amy and Elronnd.
< PaRaD0xx> still nothin from krystal
< PaRaD0xx> no bounce either tho
< bhaak> he's teamed up with the devteam and we'll see a nethack 4.0 devnull tournament, i'm almost quite positively 100% sure
<Wooble> tbh I think "orb of detection" is by far the least cool named quest artifact.
<perryprog> yeah it would be way cooler if it was like "orb of destruction"
<Wooble> "the heart of ahriman" sounds cool. much cooler than it actually is. :)
<Wooble> "it detects stuff... like regular crystal balls" isn't much of a selling point :)
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<howinstallfhishi> hi, alò, ciao, hola
<raisse> hello
<Rodney> Hello raisse, welcome to #NetHack! You are a neutral human nethacker.--More--
<howinstallfhishi> i need help installing phishing-frenzy
<raisse> then please go away because this is not the place for it
<raisse> nethack?
<Rodney> NetHack is a game, kinda like Diablo, but much better -- the name refers to hacking monsters, not computers. See the join message for more information.
<raisse> ^^ that^^
<howinstallfhishi> ok! sorry!
<stenno> heh
<stenno> np
<howinstallfhishi> good playing at all
<stenno> thanks
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<raisse> hands down the most polite hacker we've had for ages!
<AimHere> nethack welcomes courteous hackers, as long as they fuck off nicely!
<stenno> yeah that went really nice
< K2> oh man my horse got me a pair of speed boots from this shop
< K2> speed for a yeoman is huge
< K2> YUGE
< stenno> yeogue
< K2> hahah
< K2> or sorry... yayayaya
< stenno> yeontleman
< K2> ytenno
< stenno> kyo2
< mobileuser> btw K2 yeoman don't start intrinsically slow in hackem, in contrast to slashem
< K2> oh really
< K2> yoh yeally
< stenno> Y2
< K2> yhat?
< stenno> nyothing..
< K2> yoy
< K2> (lol)
< stenno> cyontiyeo
< stenno> cyontinue
< stenno> lol
< K2> heh
< mobileuser> tyortles are sloyw oy cyourse
< K2> ymg
< K2> ytop it
< K2> :P
< stenno> it is a knyown fact taht all yeomen tyalk like that
< stenno> okye
< K2> yes we have officially run this joke well into the ground
< stenno> indeed
<krm26> Does Grayswandir break perma-hallucinate conduct?
<amateurhour> pretty sure it does
<spicycebolla> yes
<K2> si
<spicycebolla> does overworld break permablind
<amateurhour> yeah
<K2> da
<aosdict> does mitre of holiness break nudist
<aoei> the truly big questions
<krm26> Depends where you put it
<paxed> yup. [spiderwebs] won't be in 3.6.2
<PavelB> what was wrong with the spiderwebs?
<aosdict> PavelB: on account of them accumulating everywhere with no real way to get rid of them short of gauntlets of power
<PavelB> Ah
<jonadab> Wimpy players complaining.
<jonadab> The obvious solution is to make them flammable like in Brogue.
<jonadab> And add wil-o-wisps.
<jonadab> And make zombies emit flammable nausea gas when they walk, like in Brogue.
<aosdict> jonadab: that will lead to the hero, stuck in a web, choking on nausea gas, on fire
<LarienTelrunya> also, in order to get a positive result from sex, a d135 is rolled and if it's lower than (INT + CHA), the result will be positive for you
<Porkman> d135?
<LarienTelrunya> Porkman: a 135-sided dice
<Porkman> that means that
<Porkman> msot of the time you have sex, you get fucked
<musicdemon> figured I'd get stomped by the quest leader and decided to cough the artifact up. I couldn't avoid them, due to the trees
<VaderFLAG> If you stick it in a bag they won't ask for it
<VaderFLAG> Or throw it past them
<musicdemon> D'oh! haha
<musicdemon> will not forget it for next time, though
<K2> wat
<K2> VaderFLAG, what sorcery is this?
<VaderFLAG> Can't return what you don't have!
<VaderFLAG> Who me? no longbow of diana here
<qt> it just postpones completing the quest though, right?
<qt> you'll have to show it to them at some point
<VaderFLAG> Right
<VaderFLAG> Gotta decide eventually
<VaderFLAG> But you can escape with it and go summon up a billion silver arrows
<VaderFLAG> Which is what you really want from diana
<K2> there should be a 'hey lemme search your fanny pack' thing
<qt> "Ho, adventurer! Please submit to a strip search before exiting the quest area"
<qt> this is sort of silly, i got a bunch of sleeping zoo ants spilling out into the hallway
<Umbire> zoo swarm generation is funny sometimes
<qt> maybe zoo monster creation should use MM_NOGRP to prevent this from happening
<qt> just make one at a time
<Croesus> [US] [D]: qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 24885 points, 9031 turns, killed by a hill giant, while fainted from lack of food
<qt> this is the fault of the hallway bees
<qt> or ants, whatever
<qt> pumping all these ants in is ruining the delicate balance of the zoo ecosystem
<amateurhour> couldn't pray for food qt?
<amateurhour> Chih Sung-tzu reaches down from the heavens and puts a hearty vegan meal directly into your stomach
<qt> i had food
<qt> i simply declined to eat it
<qt> i was on a hunger strike against hallway bees
<qt> i won't eat! 'til the zoos are neat!
<Demo> the only effective hunger strikes in nethack are dealt by famine
<picaresquieu> My pet ate a chameleon and transformed into a dwarf, went and picked up Grayswandir... no bullwhip on me but fortunately there was a disintegration dragon nearby
<aosdict> picaresquieu: "The disintegration dragon hits! You feel more derivative."
<cbus> oh, and how screwed am I with seriously abused alignment? :D
<amateurhour> not that screwed tbh ur quest leader can ask for artifact from u but u can just murder them the polis cant stop u
<cbus> any artifact or specific ones? :D
<amateurhour> the quest arti
<cbus> ah, can you teleport away or is murder the only way?
<cbus> I mean murder is not off the table but I prefer not to
<cbus> ^ that sentence out of context... ;D
* Grasshopper frees a prisoner
<Grasshopper> "The prisoner speaks: "I'm finally free!"
<Grasshopper> The purple worm swallows the prisoner. "Burrrrp!"
<Grasshopper> sometimes freedom is not what you think
<aosdict> anhur give magicbane pls
<aosdict> it would very much help your disciple take on the lower mines
<aoei> yeah anhur stop holding out ffs
<aosdict> please allow your humble servant to prove her worth
<aosdict> "You hear someone beseeching Anhur." yeah that's me
<aosdict> you don't even like a lawful unicorn, anhur?
<aosdict> picky...
<luxidream> he's too busy rolling his ten sided die
<spicycat> anhur, anhur, i beseech you
<spicycat> i will always praise and preach you
<spicycat> grant me this dagger, from consignment
<spicycat> or i'll show you a hat of opposite alignment
<hackemslashem> I'm going to be vacuuming a bunch of the stuff you added to my fork if you don't mind :)
<antigulp> Just don't take the code related to monsters riding monsters. That code is evil.
<antigulp> I didn't write that code, I channeled it from a nightmare dimension.
<Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 370 points, T:1725, killed by wounded Ms. Kars; the shopkeeper, while sleeping off a magical draught
<nabru> Kars should have a car dealership, not an armor dealership
<Rodney> oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 6047129 points, T:96935, ascended
<Rodney> oh6 reaches #63 on the top 2000 list.
<oh6> one more absurdly OP character ascended
<Andrio> Absurdly OP?
<Deuce-Zen> 96k turns better be absurdly OP!
<oh6> 1000+ HP and Pw, a stack of cockatrice eggs I never used up, etc.
<oh6> I eventually decided that sacfesting for a spellbook of polymorph was not a good use of time
<Rodney> oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 74 points, T:77, killed by a falling rock
<Deuce-Zen> oh6's next attempt was... not so overpowered
<Andrio> Ah …
<Andrio> Perhaps the rock traps are also overpowered.
<Deuce-Zen> a nethack movie should be made that ends like that. 40 minutes of introduction, the guy gets the quest from his god through visions. training montage. emotional scene leaving loved ones. steps inside the dungeons. walks towards the first door. *thump*
<Deuce-Zen> keels over dead. roll credits.
<Deuce-Zen> or not even credits. just dead silence and a black screen
<ChrisS67> "Do you want your credits identified?"
<bhaak> amateurhour: you obviously didn't look for dyson sphere or artificial black holes. they are much easier to detect
<amateurhour> if I were a slex developer, I would add those as new floating sphere monsters
<LarienTelrunya> thank you for your contribution to the slex monster list
<nabru> amateurhour: I read this as "floating point monsters"
<amateurhour> haha
<nabru> "The floating point hits! You lose 0.300000004 HP."
<Shrigis [@shrigis]> guys i think its kinda funny how a shopkeeper in minetown has an ice box with a dwarf corpse for sale. like imagine going to the store and they have a dead guy in the freezer and u can buy him
<Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> shopkeepers are evil
<Shrigis [@shrigis]> this is like some american psycho type stuff... yendorian psycho
<Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> Let’s see Paul Allen’s ascension streak
<tommo> a shopkeeper just ate me in 1.3
(one hour later...)
<tommo> couple games ago i picked up a random wand in a shop n polyd a shopkeeper into a trapper which immediately swallowed me
<tommo> i really thought this was just 1.3d kops at first, and i accepted that angry people eat each other
<CctheOwl> Mine's end on dungeon level 13
<CctheOwl> that is a bit...far down I think
<ChrisE> Perhaps you should submit a complaint to the Yendorian Dungeon Planning Authority about excessively deep mining activities?
<SpeedEvil> Sigh. I need to learn to think. Went into a room - thought 'aha, a boulder, gotta be careful of traps'
<SpeedEvil> Click! You trigger a rolling boulder trap! You are hit by a boulder!--More--
<Rodney> oj8 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 133 points, killed by a boulder
* argiopeweb doesn't want to laugh that that.
<Eidolos> Too late?
<argiopeweb> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
<argiopeweb> Now it is.
<Eidolos> Hmm, it wasn't quote HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! funny, IMO. ;)
<SpeedEvil> The sad thing was that I was out of line when I thought of that, then moved into line
* argiopeweb is ashamed of himself.
<argiopeweb> No, maybe a couple more HAs and an ROFL.
<Eidolos> The guy DIED, man!
<Eidolos> "We are gathered here today to mourn the passing of our belov-" "ROFL ROFL ROFL HE GOT BOULDER'D"
<Beholder> [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Sok Mal Neu), 9693 points, T:3480, dissolved in molten lava
<NAOrsa> rip :(
<NAOrsa> lava in gnomish mines sounds like Evilhack to me ;_;
<amateurhour> I purposefully swam in it
<amateurhour> hit a polytrap then got confused and killed my doggo
<amateurhour> or stunned or something
<amateurhour> then figured as lunch break was ending I'd just quit and start over later
<NAOrsa> it seems, alas amy had added at least two paranoid confirmations on stepping into molten lava :O
<NAOrsa> This is a lava tile that can burn you to a crisp. Really step on it? [yn] (n) Are you really sure [yes/no]? You fall into the lava!
<amateurhour> yeah, which is really useful because there's a lot of things happening all the time
<amateurhour> and many monsters which share the glyph
<nabru> Are you really, really sure? [Yes, I am!]
<nabru> To prove you are sure, solve this CAPTCHA.
<crunchbubba> reads aos comment from last night about the nethack challenge at the AI/ML conference
<crunchbubba> there are too many variables for ML to get very far. i suppose if you let it play a billion training games you might get somewhere. maybe
<aosdict> I still contend that an AI that tries things randomly is statistically never going to stumble upon doing the invocation sequence correctly
<crunchbubba> right. but the metric was something like "found the down staircase 50% of the time"
<aosdict> they were trying to maximize score, weren't they? and so the bots just farmed monsters because that's how you get score
<crunchbubba> there were also hand-coded bots
<amateurhour> there were different categories, the ones that didn't use neural networks outperformed the ones that did, iirc
<crunchbubba> You can design and train your agent however you please — with or without machine learning, using any external information you’d like, and with any training method and computational budget.
<amateurhour> I considered writing a parody paper where I trained a coworker to play it
<amateurhour> DAVE has been trained on visual input for approximately 30 years
<Looksfar> I just named Sting, and was surprised when a couple of elves showed up to claim it. I don't mind giving it up, but since I'm chaotic, if I defend myself against them and kill them, is that abusing my alignment?
<qt> actually i bet that does abuse your alignment
<qt> because they are generated peaceful, then peaceful is just set to 0
<Looksfar> Nuts. And no way to give it up peacefully?
<Looksfar> I'm not sure if there is a way to give it up. If there is, it's not obvious.
<qt> remember in the hobbit how bilbo named his dagger 'sting' and then a bunch of elves jumped out and decapitated him
<Looksfar> ...no?
<qt> i guess that was only in the secret director's cut
<aoei> i think i got a two streak once by sheer luck
<amateurhour> my longest streak is 2 as well
<jonadab> My longest streak is 1.
<jonadab> But I've done it seven times.
<jonadab> Have you done your two-streak seven times? I don't think so.
<Pacra> @K2 I've got a fun bug for you
<Pacra> unless it's a feature, not a bug
<Pacra> "You arrive on the Astral Plane! Here the High Temple of Tymora is located. You sense alarm, hostility, and excitement in the air! A voice whispers: "Worthy vassal, know now thy true identity! Behold thy steed, the Red Horse!" The Red Horse appears near you. The saddled Red Horse is confused from hunger. The saddled Red Horse starves."
<K2> lol wut
<Pacra> rip red horse
<Pacra> do not pass go, do not collect 200 saddles
<Pacra> maybe Tymora thought I was Famine, not War :P
<AntiGulp> I still want to add more materials. Need some real funky ones...
<spicycat> AntiGulp: dilithium, nanites, flesh, chips, tinsel, amber, congealed blood
<AntiGulp> I love all of these
<AntiGulp> TINSEL
<AntiGulp> ChristmasHack
<Neko-chan> "Santa hacks you with the tinsel longsword! Santa hacks you with the tinsel longsword! Santa gives you a gift.... it explodes!! you are caught in the explosion! Your potion of eggnog boils and explodes! You die.... but wait!! your nose glows red"
<K2> lol
<AntiGulp> LOL
<Umbire> Make it fucking happen
<Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: NabruRocks]
<jonadab> It would be ironic if nabru died to a falling rock trap.